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i need some tips on locating den entrances, i am using conibears and have caught a handful of beavers around den entrances but i am having trouble locating more. I am trapping a new area there is five dams total in the new area, lots of sign, any ideas or tips?I would really appreciate it.
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It has always been my beleif that trappin den entrances is a no-no.

I was taught that way and have followed it in my career , you would be better off learning to trap beaver w/ out this technique as it saves you from spooked beaver.

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what are some of your favorite sets to use?
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and also i understand not spooking beaver, is it unethical to trap by these locations? I guess i would like to know how to locate them to not set too close to den entrances. I want to trap ethically and do it right.
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ethics have nuthin to do w/ it....aint a thing wrong w/ it to me but the spookin of my quarry.

I should have a bunch of beaver snare pics in the water archives here.......check them out.

Remember, a 330 or 280 can be utilized just about everywhere a snare is used.

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thanks buzzard, this is all very new to me and i appreciate the guidance, by the ay good luck on the coat
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Before we leave you with the wrong impression... Keith has neglected to inform you that he is a professional beaver trapper. He specializes in removing nuisance beaver. This ordinarily requires the removal of all the beaver in the colony. When I am working on nuisance beaver, I don't sets dens either. Spooky beaver are hard to catch and it increases the amount of time you have to spend in an area.

On the other side of the coin, if you are just trapping for fur, it is a good idea to leave a few critters behind for seed. So you could trap the den entrances if you want, and consider the one's you spook to be next year's seed, and walk away from them.

There is no ethical issue involved here.

As for finding those den entrances, sometimes they are way far from the shoreline, and way deep underwater, and sometimes you just can't find them. On the bottom line, there are easier and more effective ways of trapping beaver than relying on locating a den. That's another reason that professional don't rely den sets.

[Smile] -- Hal

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thanks hal, i appreciate you clearing that up. I was afraid i had done something extremely unethical. I have done some reading and am considering some channel/slide sets as well as maybe a broken dam set. don't know what will work but am willing to give it a try and see what happens. Thanks again
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caught my first one on a broken dam set. Just don't make the same mistake I did. Set your trap at the crossover, NOT IN FRONT OF THE HOLE. I got fussed at by a friend when I told him I did this. Luckily the hole I made was in the crossover, and it didn't affect my catch. That mistake could've very easily resulted in a square shy beaver.
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Forget about breaking the dam. The crossover set is, however, very effective.

[Smile] -- Hal

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My most vivid memory of locating a bank den was about 5 years ago. I was walking a bank, and stepped into one, the ground gave way, and I wound up waist deep in the hole.
Adios,
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Yep, I've located a couple of dens that way myself.

[Smile] [Smile] -- Hal

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its funny that you all say that, i found one this way just this past weekend, can you explain the crossover set a bit better, is this a foothold on the dam to where beaver cross it or is it something else?
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Where it is legal, you can set a foothold on the breast of the dam, and slide it off into the pool to drown the beaver. The other way to set this up is to go below the dam in the crossover trail and set a bodygrip.

[Smile] -- Hal

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Here's a little hint about bank dens. Often the roofs cave in and you will see where the beaver patch them with sticks. Below is one that has just started to cave, and the beaver have put a few stick in the hole.

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However, the entrance to this particular den is out yonder under about four or five feet of water.

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[Smile] -- Hal

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thanks hal i saw one of these just last night on the creek, i set two 330's in crossovers on two dams and i set up on what i presume is a den. I found one of these fallouts and they had tried to patch it up, however there were two holes on into the caved in den, and another about 15 feet down the bank, i set up on the one down the bank presuming they made a new den, what would you say? Thanks for the pictures as well, very very helpful.
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Be care ful about setting bank den entrances if you have otters in the area. they will use these dens too.
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Otters use all beaver locations in my experience. Bank dens are usually near castor mounds along creek or shore line. Trap cross overs, c-mound sets, fresh cut trees and tops and pullouts and feeding areas. Although beavs can be trapped all year here, the reg's on coni's on land and large traps still apply. Snares and drowner slides w/large foothold, (only have to be "submereged") work if water at above sets is shallow but can be slid into the deep holes. Sounds like your learning, remeber to secure your traps very well. Beaver eaters can easily break lite wire and some beavs will spin and break wire then wash away. Losing bridger 330 coni's will cut into bottom line quickly.
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