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mrfox
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I was wondering which of these you guys prefer and why? Pan covers, trap bedders, trappers cap? If pan covers what type?

I have used wax paper for panocvers in the past when I needed them. I have also used the occasional flat leaf nearby to bed a trap. But I am not against a good tool that will work better?

The trappers cap seems like a great idea if you have all victor traps for canine trapping? I am one of those trappers that has a mixed bag of canine traps. I have all the brands but am reluctant to buy a device that only works on one brand. Has anybody tried to make their own? I was wondering about an aluminum pop can or something similar and cutting it to fit. Any Ideas or suggestions?

The commercial trap bedders seem like a more universal bedder, but I have never tried them?

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For pan covers I always used fiberglass screening pre cut and in a container with some fox urine sprayed in. Seemed to work real good. Then I started using a homemade "cap" and seem to like it better. I made mine out of an old Bel Ray oil container. I would think you could find a shampoe bottle or something the pan diameter made out of plastic and just cut the top off and notch it for the springs and dog. No cost and works good. Now I haven't tried it on the square pans so you'd probrably have to look for something else on those or use the pan cover.
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mrfox,

If you night latch so the pan only needs to drop maybe 1/16" and your pan tension is enough that you won't get pinched while packing the jaws then you don't need to use anything in the right weather. Hals video showed me this. I tried it last year and it worked great and there is no soft spot around the inside of the jaws as there is sometimes with fiberglass covers.

The trappers cap seems like the next best thing but you are right about the limitations to specific traps.

I also use fiberglass pan covers if I choose to use them at all.

Hope I was some help, Good trapping, Rookie


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I personally use nothing, and haven't for years, even in sand. Like rookie said, a short crisp notch takes care of it.

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I like the trappers cap with smaller traps like 1.5 and 1.75, and that works good 99% of the time. The exception is in heavy rain conditions which cause "freshen ups". Smaller traps can be put out of commission pretty easily with liquid mud that then firms up. If I ever have to trap in an area that has typical rainy falls, I think I would go to a screen on all traps. Luckily, my area has dry falls, and a trappers cap does a fine job......trappnman web page
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While a hair trigger will allow you to go with out pan covers or underalls,I like a screen pan cover since It gives you a very large kill area and will catch you a few more animals that you may have missed before.

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Do you remember all those tracked patterns where that fox or cat missed the pan by that 1/2" or 1/4"? He would have been caught If you would have had a screen pan cover.

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black aluminum wire screen. fiberglass screens are to forgiving for me. i like the stiffer aluminum screen
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Has any of you guys tried using buckwheat hulls just under the pan? I read about this somewhere, can't remember where. It's supposed to keep the dirt from going under the pan and allows the trap to still fire correctly.
Scrapper

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I have found the best method is a wadded up soft leaf or foxtail weed under the pan. These items are natural, no forgien odors and free. Under works better than over...at least for me it does.

I personally had lousy luck with the pre-cut pan covers made of mesh...had many traps dug up. You do not want any attention diverted from the attractor to the trap bed. I would think that keeping your pan covers in a container with urine would simply contaminate the set.

The number one thing to remember is that successful canine trapping is all in the bedding of the trap...the finest tuned, best covered trap is only as good as it's stability.

Steve


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CLEAN steel screen has no more odor then a clean trap.If you don't form the screen to the trap you will have bludge and under that buldge you will have a open area that when a animal steps on the screen it will move under it's foot and thus cause digging.If the screen is fitted properly you won't have this problem.They work for me.

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I think the ones I was trying were not steel, but some type of plastic...which likely had an odor all it's own. If it works for you great! I like to keep it natural.

Steve


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I used homemade 3/8” thick “open-cell” foam under pads with #1-1/2 & #2 dog-less Montgomery’s. I boiled them right with my traps, squeezed the dye out and let them dry. Once a set connected, that particular pad was sweetened nicely and used again and again. If I didn’t find it right at the set after removing the fox, I’d spend the extra time to find it for reuse regardless if I had a dozen fresh ones at hand in the basket!

We commonly have rainy weather in mid-November and the pads held water but it certainly didn’t impede the sets performance. In fact I always looked forward to the rain because many times my better catches (numbers) would be during those rainy nights.

If I were to do it over again, I wouldn’t hesitate or consider using anything but those pads. All things being equal and regardless of which method you choose, confidence will always be the deciding factor!


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Seldom: Are you saying that you used the same pad under the pan? If so, do you think the fox are digging to get to the pad or are they focused on the dirthole/remake?
I hear you about confidence. There's nothing like trying to fix something that isn't broke.

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Not to scratch Hals' back here, but after reading cannines 2000 and some other material, with the proper night latch and proper tension you do not need pan covers or the sort, for coons and others a large leaf will do the trick, sorry, but use what is nature gives you, the more we add, the more we STINK! They know what we are, we have to convice them differently, learning to keep your digits off the pan does'nt take long, just once or twice.
good luck, yotebuster30

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Hi Musher,
Yes, I used and reused the same pad as often as possible. I can honestly say that I never had a “digger” (at least leave the set) after my first year when I switched from wax paper to my pads! As each set gets better after each catch so I believe the principle goes for the pads as part of a “used” set. I only replaced the trap if I thought I could see blood on it (which was seldom), otherwise I reset it as well.

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